Don’t Marry | Why Modern, Western Marriage Has Become A Bad Business Decision For Men

By | October 28, 2013

Don’t Marry | Why Modern, Western Marriage Has Become A Bad Business Decision For Men.

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Why Modern, Western Marriage Has Become A Bad Business Decision For Men

This writing seeks to educate men about the realities of what they may be getting into when they marry a Western Woman. An informed decision is less likely to be one that may be regretted later in the marriage. The intent is not to dissuade men from marrying, but to encourage them to communicate frankly their concerns and expectations regarding marriage with their potential spouses. The secondary aim of this essay is to enlighten women to a few of the reasons why increasingly larger numbers of successful, eligible, unmarried men, who would otherwise prefer monogamous long-term relationships, are turning their backs on marriage.

Society typically paints a negative stereotype of men who hesitate, delay, or elect not to marry.

They are labeled as either:

A) Womanisers who are unable to participate in a long term relationship, or
B) Selfish, childish or irresponsible men who can not take care of themselves or another person.

No other explanation is ever explored.

The cost of proclaiming your undying love

In University, in professional sports, in politics, in the workplace; women have the same educational and professional career opportunities as men. Contrary to commonly believed feminist propaganda, women do indeed get paid the same salary as men, given that they are willing to work the same types of jobs as men, and work as many hours as the men do. Despite this reality, many women come into marriage with very few assets, and often are saddled with substantial quantities of debt. In general, men are the ones who save and invest. Don’t believe me? Count the number of women of marrying age that you know who subscribe to financial services magazines or newspapers. A significant number of 20-something and 30-something women spend all of their disposable income on luxury rental apartments, upscale restaurants, frequent exotic vacations, leased cars, spa treatments, and excessive amounts of clothing, purses, shoes and accessories. Yet ironically, in the media, men are the ones who are portrayed as reckless, irresponsible spendthrifts.

When marriage enters the picture, double standards and financial imbalances leave responsible men to pick up the slack and fix the mess she may have made of her finances. Men are forced to spend their hard-earned savings, or take out an usurious loan, on a diamond ring. Women justify this relatively recent, mid-20th Century ritual, which was spawned by a brilliant 1940′s mass-brainwashing campaign launched by DeBeers, by insisting that a man wants to buy her a diamond and that it makes him proud to be able to proclaim his love and affection towards her in this fashion. Granted there are some men who may be inclined to declare their commitment to a life-long partner in this way, but there are plenty of men whom seek a lifelong partnership and commitment who have no interest in buying diamonds. What choice do these men have? None! To many young men, the ring, catered wedding, and honeymoon in an exotic locale at a five-star hotel is an unwelcome land mine on their journey towards adult financial stability and independence. To add insult to injury, he is now locked into a lifetime of insurance payments for this grossly overpriced jewelry. Contrary to popularly held belief diamonds are not rare at all, but instead are common and inexpensive. Their high price is due to their supply having been artificially manipulated. Some men are more concerned with realising their dream of owning a home and becoming financially stable enough to begin a family and responsibly provide for their welfare. Men worry about these matters, because, ultimately, it becomes their sole responsibility.

The purchase of the diamond ring is a predictor of things to come. Immediately after buying it, the man may be rewarded with bridal demands to finance all or part of a lavish wedding, depending upon the size of his bank account and the ambitions of his fiancée. The average costs of today’s Western Weddings frequently exceed that of a house down payment or, in certain parts of the world, the entire cost of the house itself. If a man enters a marriage having saved up a down payment for his dream home, it can suddenly be snatched right out from underneath him. Many men may object to spending such a large sum of money on what is basically a very expensive one-day, four-hour party. He also will be spending a year of his life planning it, when he could use the same time to further his career or education. However, what a man wants is really not of any concern anymore at this point in the proceedings. His wants, desires, hopes and dreams are ignored almost in their entirety. Her opinions regarding the wedding are frequently non-negotiable. A wedding is no longer an event that is equally for the bride and groom. As many of today’s Bridezilla’s will gleefully remind you, “Today is MY day!”. This gives her licence to become selfish, irresponsible, demanding and childlike. A man who balks at spending his entire life savings, or shouldering a five-figure debt load, for the ring, catered wedding and honeymoon in an exotic locale at a five-star hotel, can and will be labeled as a selfish cheapskate or not a “Real Man”. If a woman leaves such a man for him suggesting that they try to keep their costs under control, she would have the full support of everyone around her as she dumped him.

“She can do better”, “Clearly, he doesn’t love her”, “He doesn’t deserve her”, and similar sentiments will be muttered in quiet circles just out of his earshot. This is a sign of her good self-esteem and healthy self-image, and a sign that she won’t settle for anything less. She is the poster girl for the Modern, Independent Woman.

Imagine if a man demanded equal treatment and asked that she buy him a new bass boat, and a two-week bear hunt in Siberia as a condition of marriage. This would be viewed as absurd, yet women do it every day. Modern Western Marriage is supposedly an equal partnership, isn’t it?

The injustices go from bad to worse when children enter the picture. If he can afford to carry the entire familial financial burden, the woman may now elect to stop working entirely. She will often make this decision regardless of how he may feel about it. The day she stops working is the day that all of her past financial baggage unequivocally gets tossed onto his shoulders. If the woman has racked up substantial credit card debts, these are now his payments to make; if the woman has not bothered to pay off her student loans, these become his responsibility; if she owes an enormous sum on her luxury car note, it is up to him to pay it off. Irony of ironies is that he is now paying for her degree and she isn’t even working anymore! Can he object? Can he say: “No Honey, you made your mess, and it should not be my job to clean it up. You knew that you wanted kids even before you met me, and you should have planned ahead.” No, he cannot. The payments can’t be deferred until she is once again able to continue repaying them herself, not if he wants to retain a clean credit rating to get a loan for their dream home. If he even suggested that she return to work to pay off some of her own debt load, he opens himself to criticisms of being an unsupportive husband and bad father who is endangering the welfare of his children. Now the noose tightens and the responsible husband compensates for the mother’s freewheeling and irresponsible past, and begins slowly to pay off her old debts. In the most twisted turn of events yet, the debt he is paying off may often be on credit cards used to finance Vacations, Hotel Rooms and Christmas gifts shared with previous husbands, boyfriends, fiancés and lovers. Caveat Emptor! This is the reward for today’s man who works hard, makes sacrifices, plans ahead, and invests wisely. By getting married to the typical Modern, Western Woman, the man is certainly susceptible to being railroaded into this situation, because it is completely acceptable within today’s gender roles and societal norms.

Marriage can mean career slavery

Anyone who says, “Slavery is dead” clearly has not contemplated the predicament of the average Western Husband, where a good paycheck can mean career slavery. Merriam-Webster’s English Dictionary defines slavery as “…(T)he state of a person who is a chattel (an item of tangible movable or immovable property) of another person.” If the husband earns enough to support both of them, he would be hard pressed to make an argument to preserve equality and have her continue working as he does. If the wife decides to stop working, the man who has been left holding the financial bag finds his options very limited. He may find himself working in a career that he hates, for abusive and exploitative management, excessively long hours, in a position that is physically dangerous or demanding, in an organisation that has no growth potential, far away from home. At this point, considering the corner he’s been painted into, he is often powerless to affect any positive, meaningful change in his own life. He may have been harbouring delusions that once his wife was able to return to work, he would be able to gain some flexibility to rectify some of the shortcomings in his own career. Perhaps changing careers or accepting a lower salary at a different firm in exchange for better hours, a shorter commute, or more fulfilling work. Nevertheless, the distinct reality is that he will continue to shoulder the financial responsibilities of his family alone. His reward for working hard and getting ahead is to become trapped into his career, and become a specialised beast of burden to an emotionally and financially dependent family. Does it really pay to work hard anymore and apply oneself to his full potential?

If she stops working, she may never work again.

There are many debates about the merits of a stay-at-home mother vs. a working mother. My goal here is to simply educate the prospective husband on frequently unseen risks he is taking on when he agrees to accept 100% of the financial burden to allow his wife to stay at home. An informed decision is less likely to be one that may be regretted later in the marriage.

Every parent will agree that staying home with children is backbreaking and often mind-numbing labour. Many new fathers may concede that it is much easier to go to work than to stay at home with several children. However, the greatest imbalance in efforts and contributions to a marriage can manifest once all of the children are of school age. The house is now empty from 8am-3pm. The wife has 7 hours to herself while the kids are at school and the husband is at work. After a few years of hard work at home, many wives may feel entitled to “kick back” and take it easy. The good, supportive husband, however, has worked those same years, has done his 50/50 of the housework, and is still working just as hard to support the family once the kids are in school. His workload has not diminished, and it may have even increased as her expectations rise. He is rarely afforded the same option to scale back his daytime efforts.

What motivation does the modern wife have to return to work? Very little. For several years now, the man’s salary has been enough to live on. Otherwise, she would have been working to make ends meet. Unless tight finances dictate that she must return to work, the husband really has little say in this matter. The wife can hide behind many different excuses in order not to work, despite having little to do from 8am-3pm. Among the commonest are:

“I’m busy with the housework”
It is easy to exaggerate the labours of daily housework. Yet how long does it take to throw clothes or dishes into the washer, and remove them later? Vacuuming can be done in 1 hour a week. Grocery shopping is another hour per week. A decent meal can be prepared in under an hour. Does all of this add up to 7 hours a day? The lie that housework is hard, time-consuming drudgery is no longer as persuasive as it may have been in the past, because in an age of later marriage, many men are already experienced in cooking, cleaning, and general housekeeping and know that it doesn’t take that much effort or time. Humourously, not every stay-at-home-wife even performs all of these duties.

“I can’t find a job”
She has been out of work too long, and therefore is unable to find a job. This may be true, but many men do not consider this risk when they agree to support her while she “temporarily” stops working. Hopefully now they will, and can make a more informed decision. Many wives may use this as a convenient scapegoat to stop looking for any job at all. The next section describes how this can be used against him in the event of divorce.

“It doesn’t pay for me to work”
In the short run, the expenses of returning to work such as gas, lunch, clothes and day care may not make it worthwhile for her to return to the workforce. This may be true, but does that justify her playing tennis, drinking lattes and ‘catching up with her friends’ while her husband toils away? Many couples may be too shortsighted to thoroughly and comprehensively think through this issue. Initially, the cost to benefits ratio may not be ideal, but her returning to work will improve her job skills and network of contacts and over time the return on investment will improve. More so than strolling through the local mall every afternoon and window-shopping for new window treatments. Over time, as her career gets back on track, and she becomes qualified for better jobs, her salary should also improve.

It should be duly noted that some working wives view their salary as “personal spending money”, and still expect the man to pay all or most of the bills. Western Women are often heard to claim that, “What’s mine is mine, and what’s his is ours.”

Even more unfair double standards that favour wives

Cheating
If a married man cheats, he’s the scum of the earth. He is a selfish jerk that has jeopardised the family unit, done his ‘thinking with his little head’, and disrespected his wife and children. However, when the woman cheats, she’s portrayed as the victim of an insensitive and inattentive husband. “Poor thing, he ignores her. It is for her empowerment, to boost her ego. She deserves it after bearing and rearing his children.” It’s good for her self-esteem. Worse, her cheating is portrayed as the man’s fault. If he works long hours to provide for her and the children, he works too much. If he is tired at the end of the day from 13 hours of manual labour, then he doesn’t compliment her as much as she wants. Into this vacuum of conflicting expectations steps the first man who “makes me feel like a Real Woman again…”. You read that correctly; the man who is scrambling to pay the mortgage and car payments and is working double shifts to pay for the consumer goods she demanded to have is now considered a negligent and emotionally abusive husband. The man who may be working two jobs to allow her to be home with her kids is now considered a candidate for Domestic Violence.

When a woman cheats, the first thing people ask is what he did, or more often, didn’t do, to drive her into the arms of another man.

When a man cheats, no one ever asks the same question.

When a woman cheats, the reaction will be; “Oh, poor thing, I guess her husband couldn’t get the job done in the bedroom”.

When a man cheats, no one ever stops to think; “Oh poor fellow, his wife was horrible in bed.”

Let’s not forget what happens if a man were to leave his wife for a younger woman. This will become fodder at the coffee shop for months. It is automatically assumed that he is a shallow sex maniac whose only motivation was to be with a younger woman. The possibility that his wife was of a generation of women who were taught to hate men and that younger women do not, that she was lazy, or a reckless spendthrift, or verbally or physically abusive, or grossly overweight, or an incompetent mother, are rarely considered and are often totally ignored. The myth is that the only reason a man leaves his wife is to be with a younger, more attractive woman. Never mind if she is a better match for him and a more supportive, nurturing mate.

Pre-Nups
If a man insists on a Pre-Nup, he is selfish and unromantic. However, when is the last time a woman who demanded a Pre-Nup was called “unromantic”? On the contrary, if a woman requests a Pre-Nup, she is being fiscally responsible, sensible and looking out for herself. (Note: If your fiancée refuses to sign a Pre-Nup, she has just shown her hand. Best to leave now.) Why is it that a woman can refuse a Pre-Nup, and it is accepted by society? In reality, the man should be outraged that she is after a legal contract, and not love.

What is astounding is the hypocrisy of the usual reaction towards Pre-Nups. Women can conveniently assert that a man is unromantic if he suggests a Pre-Nup. After all, how can a man pollute true love with the signing of legal paperwork! However, what is a marriage licence? Nothing more than a legal contract entered into between the man, woman and local and state government authorities. A woman does not seem to balk at signing this legal paperwork, which entitles her to at least half the assets a man has accumulated as well as half of everything he earns in the future, and obligates him to support her in perpetuity in the event of a breakup. Why aren’t men allowed to note how unromantic this contract is? The distraction of bridal magazines, place setting selection, floral arrangements, wedding dresses, receptions, wedding showers, and honeymoons have clouded the legal reality of what men are getting themselves into. Marriage is as much an unromantic legal contract as a prenuptial agreement is.

Initially, Pre-Nups were devised as a way to protect women. Nuptial agreements were popularised in the 19th century, mostly to protect heiresses from marrying men who were “out for their money”. Until the Married Women’s Property Act of 1848, under English Common Law, a woman’s property, upon marriage, was usually transferred to her husband.

“Stupid, Irresponsible” Men
Men are severely abused in our media, quite frankly. Just watch any TV commercial or sitcom and see how they portray men as idiots, dolts, or well intentioned, if bumbling, buffoons. If women were portrayed in commercials in the same fashion, “Women’s Organisations” would have a fit. If it weren’t for their wives in these shows and ads the men would be lost “animals”, unable to feed themselves or perform even the simplest of tasks. Other commercials make it appear that men act without thinking, only responding in an impulsive and irrational manner, and that the wife is the brains of the family. Even many women will agree that women often are the ones who act upon emotions and make judgments solely based up on emotional attachments and not logic or reason. Almost every “couples budgeting” article will portray the woman as the one who has to rein in the man’s childish spending, when in truth it is usually the woman who cannot control her expenditures.

Job Loss
If a husband loses his job and is having trouble finding work, the wife is completely and totally justified in threatening to leave him. However, can you imagine the reaction if a husband threatened to leave a wife who was in the exact same position? He would be vilified! If a man loses his job, the woman is justified in resenting the fact that the financial burden lies on her. He is no longer a ‘good provider’. When is a man allowed to resent this very same predicament? If a man is laid off and cares for the household and kids while the wife is working, he may be accused of not pulling his weight! Yet this is exactly the same situation that women demand more recognition for with each passing year! No matter what role the man plays, he loses!

Traditional Roles
It is perfectly acceptable for a woman to demand that a man make a certain salary, drive a certain car, live in a certain part of the city, have a certain job, have the ‘right’ manners, talk a certain way, walk a certain way, behave a certain way, have a degree from the ‘right’ University and dress in a stylish fashion, to be deemed “marriage material” and be able to provide her with the stability she feels she deserves. If a man demands his wife do the cooking and cleaning, he can now be labeled old fashioned and sexist. If he asks her to carry her weight financially, just as he does, he may be criticised as an inadequate provider. If a man insists that his wife honor the conjugal requirements of the marriage contract, he can and will be accused of sexual abuse, sexual assault or rape.

To add insult to injury, some women have gotten so pampered that they not only quit their jobs the day they find out they are pregnant, but they then go out and hire as many nannies, cooks, gardeners and pool boys as their husband can afford. Many Western Wives stay at home and hire someone else to rear the kids and clean up, while they drink lattes and go shopping all day with other pampered “stay-at-home” mothers. Does it pay to work hard and get ahead anymore, if this is how your hard-earned money is squandered?

The concept of the pampered wife is a relatively new one. Most of Western Civilisation was primarily an agricultural economy even up until the 1920′s and 1930’s. Western Wives contributed to the well being of the household by helping on the farm. A man needed a wife as an equal partner. It was not until the 1950′s that the first generation of Western Wives, first in The States and later in Europe, Australia and New Zealand, began to emerge as dead weight. Perhaps this coincides with the spiking of the divorce rate in The States, and later Europe and the other English Speaking Nations, and the rise of Feminism. Perhaps men have become tired of giving so much, while getting so little in exchange.

Divorce

43% of Western Marriages end in divorce, and 70% to 93% of these divorces are initiated by women.

All men should consult a legal professional before marrying, and understand the implications of divorce, because the chances are 1-in-3 that they will participate in one whether they like it, want it, inititate it or not.

Upon divorce, all assets accumulated during and prior to a marriage are subject to division. It has become, simply put. a licence to steal. Even if the woman has not worked in years, and has spent the intervening decade(s) shopping and lunching from 8am-3pm, she is entitled to half, or more, of everything the man worked for during the course of the marriage. Is this fair? How many people would ever agree to a job contract that stipulated that in the event of separation that one party would have to return 50% of the gross amount of everything in the pay packet? No one in his or her right mind would knowingly sign such an agreement. Yet Western Men unknowingly agree to the exact same insanity each time they sign their marriage contract!

“Assets accumulated prior to a marriage are exempt from a divorce”. In theory this is true, in practice it is not. If funds from an account are commingled or combined, it can become marital property. How do funds become commingled, or mixed? If even the smallest sum from a prior account is spent towards the marriage, all of that account will now be considered marital property. Buy your child a lollipop from your own account, and a good lawyer will take one-half of it for your ex-wife when you divorce. If a woman moves into a home the man owned prior to the marriage, it is not safe from divorce. If she so much as hangs up a sheet of wallpaper, puts up draperies, paints a wall, or installs a light fixture, the home is now classified as joint marital property, and is now subject to equal division. Worse actually, the man can be ejected from the home if she makes a false claim of domestic violence, physical abuse, verbal abuse or child abuse. Where is the equality and fairness?

Note: “Equal Division” is also somewhat of a misnomer. Often, she can get upwards of 70% – 90% of the assets, while the man gets the majority of the debts! She gets all of the benefits, he gets all of the responsibilities. This, of course, is just and right and is his reward for working so hard all of those years. He can afford it; she can’t because she was not working.

If you pamper your wife, it can be used against you

Imagine that in the spirit of generosity and kindness that you gave a beggar a hot meal. A generous act, indeed. Now imagine your reaction if that same beggar sues you in court. He is petitioning the judge to have you keep providing him with the food that you gave him willingly, freely, out of a big heart. The judge orders you to keep feeding the homeless man meals, indefinitely, forever, because he has become accustomed to eating those meals! This is categorically absurd, yet this happens to Western Men in divorce court every day. Instead of thanking you for paying her bills for all those years, what you get is the privilege of being legally forced to pay her bills forever!

After having children, many women demand to quit working and stay home. Before the kids came along, many of these same women may have been in careers they hated, working long hours, and enduring long commutes. It is the man’s generosity and dedication to his own career that enables her to walk away from her own career. During a marriage, a man with a stay-at-home wife might work long and grueling hours in order to support her. He will pay the mortgage, the property tax, grocery bill, phone bill, cable bill, Internet bill and electric bill. He also pays for her car, gas money, clothes, and vacations.

As one final slap in the face, the man may be punished for working hard enough to allow his wife to have the luxury of staying at home with the kids. As noted above, after the children are in school, the wife may enjoy a life of leisure and relaxation that is afforded to her by her man’s hard work. In the event of divorce, he will be legally obligated to support her for years or decades to come. Because she stopped working and led a life of leisure, the ex-husband is now responsible for supporting her, forever! History has a tendency of rewriting itself. Originally, a woman may have had a career that she may have hated, and was begging to leave. Western Women often “play” at work and career for a few years after University, and then when they near 30 or grow tired of the workplace they seek out a man to “take her away from all of this”, whatever “all of this” may be. In fact her desire to leave the world of work may have been her motivation to have kids in the first place. But now, in her eyes, and definitely her lawyers eyes, she “gave up” her career for her man and his kids. She is now “owed” all of her “lost income”. His gift of leisure and support to her has now become twisted and is viewed as her sacrifice! Another way in which the situation is turned against him is that he will be characterised as being threatened by her having her own career, and that he forced her to quit her “lucrative career” and stay home with the children. Her lawyer will now attempt to convince the judge that he wanted to “oppress” his wife and “keep her down”. Truthfully now, how many men do you personally know that are upset at having a wife that earns a good living? Many of these misleading stereotypes still run rampant in our society, and are routinely used to the woman’s advantage during a divorce. As a result of her not working, regardless of whether she was minding the home or not, she remains a financial liability.

Generous, caring men who spoil their wives should certainly think twice about how this generosity can later be used against them. The phrase used in divorce court is “She has become accustomed to a certain lifestyle”. A husband’s reward for spoiling his wife today is the legal obligation to spoil her indefinitely, forever. Buy her a luxury car today, and you may be obligated to buy her luxury cars after she leaves you for another man! Yet, imagine a husband that became accustomed to eating a home cooked dinner, or regular conjugal visits. Now imagine the courts obligate the ex-wife to continue cooking for him and sharing her bed with him and his new girlfriend each night, despite being divorced! Inconceivable, but it happens the other way around every day!

The ultimate insult, however, comes when the man loses half or more of his life’s assets even when she has decided to leave him. Yes, a wife can unilaterally decide to kick a man out of his own home, and have the courts force him to continue paying the bills, while she is sleeping with her new boyfriend in the very house the husband worked so long and hard to buy! She can, and often does, spend her alimony check on gifts for her new boyfriend or lover! How is it that the legal system supports a woman who feels entitled to this?

The risks are clear, yet what exactly are men getting out of marriage? Many times, the reasons men get married are unfounded.

Many of the traditional reasons why a man gets married are a myth.

“I won’t die alone”
Wrong. The simple fact is that one spouse WILL die alone. Visit the hospital and go to the terminally ill or cardiac departments. Few people have the time to sit with an ill relative all day and all night. Yes, you may get visitors, but they aren’t having the same thoughts as you are. You’re contemplating your mortality, while they’re wondering what food the hospital cafeteria offers. In the end, even with a loving and supportive family, most of us will leave this world alone, unless you both die simultaneously in an accident of some kind. Your spouse may die fifteen years before you, or you may be in the hospital for your last year. Ultimately, we all die alone. Married or not.

“I won’t grow old alone”
Not necessarily. A marriage can self-destruct at any time. Your partner may initiate divorce at age 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65 or 70. Many married people end up in the same position (alone) as if they had never married at all. Now they enter their twilight years broke, as a result of being stripped of half or more of their life’s assets, losing half their retirement and pension funds, and being assessed alimony payments. Experiencing financial devastation from one divorce often may preclude a man from ever marrying again. This is a common observation of many middle-aged Western Women. Q: “Where are all the men?”. A: “He is broke from the divorce settlement, alimony and child support payments.” Thus these women don’t find him marriable, and he grows old alone and poor.

Men are led to believe that not marrying implies only one destiny; that of a solitary monk in a cave, a shunned loner. However, life is not so black and white. Not marrying does not mean you cannot continue to date or have meaningful relationships throughout your life. There are plenty of single people in all age brackets. A bad marriage can be the loneliest of institutions, because most of your emotional outlet and companionship is concentrated into one person who gives back nothing in emotion, affection or support. Young men in their 20′s and 30′s should be more aware of the alternatives that exist in life. They should be aware that marriage is a choice, and is not the only path life has to offer. An informed decision is less likely to be one that is later regretted.

“I’ll get regular sex”
Not from Modern, Western Women. Access to regular sex is the oldest and the most frequently cited reason to marry. Many men now know that Modern, Western Women frequently stop having sex after just a short time of being married. There are plenty of “sexless” marriages. Talk to a few married couples that are honest about their relationship. One or both partners may stop wanting sex after kids, or the sex may be as infrequent as once a year or once every six months, or the wife may only have sex when she wants the husband to buy her something, take her somewhere, or remodel the house. Read the honest opinions of married men on the Internet. Most Western, Married Men will have more sex with their Western Wives in the first six months of their marriage than they will in the next 40 years. Lastly, it remains to be seen whether sex with one exclusive partner for forty years or more is even a natural act, or just a man-made convention. In many Western Nations, the wife is no longer required to have sex with her husband. She can deny him at any time, for any length of time. She can, if she wishes, deny him sex forever and there is nothing that he can do about it. In fact, if he insists that she honor her end of the marriage contract by being available for sexual relations, he can and will be accused of, charged with, and arrested for Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault or Rape.

Marriage is hardly a guarantee of regular sex, as many people are led to believe.

“I’ll have someone to cook and clean for me”
Not necessarily. While a Modern, Western Woman is perfectly justified in quitting her job in the name of staying home with the kids, she can also demand that the husband pay for a cook, a maid, and a nanny. This leaves the man to earn the money, and leaves him to pay for maintenance of household and children, while the wife gets to play at being a housekeeper. Today’s woman is empowered by not performing the traditional housewife duties, regardless of whether she is working or not. If a husband asks that his wife perform traditional household duties because she is not working, he will often be labeled sexist, abusive or controlling, even if he is doing his “traditional role” of paying all the bills, providing for his family, and performing the traditional manly duties of vehicle repairs, maintaining the lawn and house upkeep.

“I have to be married to have kids”
Not anymore. Her ovaries do not physically need a contract at the government center in order to be fertilised by your sperm. Cro-Magnon man had children long before lawyers invented marriage contracts. Often, you do not need to be married in order to share health benefits. You do not need to be married to designate your partner on a life insurance policy. You do not need to be married to own a dream home together. It is ironic that responsible parents who raise a healthy family, but never actually sign marriage paperwork, get less respect than divorced parents or married parents who are ineffective, inattentive or incompetent.

-Having a lifelong, faithful, committed relationship has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Owning a beautiful dream home together has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Rearing healthy, happy, and successful children has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Building a family and life together has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Growing old together has nothing to do with being “married”.

In fact, recent changes in cohabitation, partner and marriage law have proven that the only tangible consequence of marriage is having a formalised separation process that usually requires the talents of an attorney.

You do need to be married in order to throw an extravagant four-hour party, and share the same last name.

You do need to be married in order to involve the state and government in your romantic affairs.

You do need to be married in order give away half of everything you own.

Besides that, marriage does nothing more than introduce lawyers and social workers into your life. These are people that otherwise would have nothing to do with your life or your relationship.

Men need to stop and ask themselves:

“Why exactly am I getting married? What exactly does marriage mean to me in today’s world? What is the benefit to me to get married?”

It is no longer a lifelong commitment, because it can be reversed overnight on her unilateral whim.

Marriage was originally created as a way for families to merge land, property, political power and influence; perhaps people should return to viewing it as just that and nothing more. The rest of it is fake modern TV Fantasy and Tabloid Gossip and Hype polluting the minds of today’s impressionable youth, and a way to keep the multi-billion-per-year wedding industry chugging along. Perhaps the only criteria should be to ask oneself: “How excited am I for us to merge our finances and assets?” When all the fluff and hype are boiled away, that may be the only remaining reality. Spend a day in divorce court, and you’ll see exactly what is real and tangible and lasting about marriage. You’ll see women who signed the marriage contract under romantic pretenses who are now expert laymen attorneys who can cite case law. Bouquet throwing ex-brides now embroiled in warfare to get everything that is coming to them and more! The rest are myths, lies, bold unsubstantiated promises, and maybes. “For better or for worse…”

The Western Divorce rate is 43%. It is higher in some parts of the world such as California, Great Britain and Australia. In Japan the recent change in pension law may have many pensioners out on the street. In India new changes to dowry law have men being threatened by their wives. Consider the number of people who are in a bad marriage, but elect to stay; Men who don’t want to lose 50%, women who know they can’t support themselves alone. Next, think of how many more couples stay together just for the sake of the kids. Of these “forced marriages”, consider how many of these marriages involve infidelity, no sex, or sleeping in separate beds or separate rooms. I estimate the percentage of happy and monogamous marriages to be under 5%. Are these odds you would take in a business venture, investment or loan? Most of the risk-averse population would not. Yet they seek this exception to the rule everyday through marriage.

 

Another important facet to marriage is the Violence Against Women Act (1996), which reclassified anything that could be considered domestic violence as a felony. The act covers gay men since 2013, but it is intended to reduce violence against women who are married or co-habitating. So, men living with their girlfriends are also impacted!

If we apply the definition of domestic violence as reported elsewhere, then we see that men are no longer allowed to:
– withhold money from a spouse, even if it’s because there is no money (physical violence)
– withhold food or medical care, or force upon her food or medical care (physical violence)
– say or do anything to influence her religion or beliefs (emotional violence)
– force her to have or prevent her from having a child (sexual violence)
– force her to take or prevent her from taking birth control (sexual violence)
– force her to get or prevent her from getting an abortion (sexual violence)
– force her to give up or prevent her from giving up a child, i.e. adoption (sexual violence)
– correct her, even if she is wrong about something (emotional violence)
– keep her from spending time with friends or family (physical violence)

So, married men have exactly two rights now: to make as much money as possible and give it all to their spouses, and to do as much work at home as is necessary to prevent her from having to do any work at all. The right to have or not have children is entirely a woman’s right now. i can’t have friends anymore, lest my spending time with them prevent her from spending time with her friends or family. i can’t buy things anymore, lest my purchases interfere with her ability to spend money on what she wants. i can’t get a vasectomy without her permission. i have to reverse my vasectomy if she tells me to do so.

i’m not being spurious. This is all very true. Nearly all the work in my house is done by me so that she can live the life she wants. To ask her for help with any of the housework is domestic violence. All my ships have sailed.

If you don’t believe me, see for yourself. The bill was only 180 pages long, and wikipedia has a link to the full text.

 

Feminism was born out of a woman’s selfish lust for power and control, but cloaked under the false media friendly title of “fairness and justice for all”. They starting floating around all of the equality bullshit, but that’s not what they want, they want all the power they percieve men have for themselves. They don’t want to be like men, but want the power they have.

So, women entered the workforce, dressed like men and hair cut off so they could get the power men have. They broke all the rules, became heartless bitches and forced their way into managment roles, which they had no business being in and became total failures, wrecking industry and displacing men who should have had those jobs. They stopping taking care of their children in this mad lust for power, wrecking their families. Feminism only exemplies a women’s selfishness, immaturity and power thirstyness, where power comes before all else whether it means wrecking the workplace, family or anything else that gets in her way.

The impact on society has been horrible; peace, respect and love mean nothing, to the feminist anyway, and has been replaced with lieing, cheating, disrespect and doing anything to get your way.

 

I only entered this site because of its title: “Don’t marry” and I added why I agreed. We, at this site, work from different perspectives but come to the same conclusion, “don’t get married” or in Tom’s case above, don’t even live with a girlfriend.
Marriage does work sometimes. I remember coming home from school many years ago and saying to my dad, “Today the teacher told us who the most beautiful woman in the world is, it is Elizabeth Taylor!” My father glanced in the direction of my overweight mother (who had recently given birth to my brother) and said, “Your teacher is wrong. The most beautiful woman in the world is your mother.” My parents weren’t worried about who would get what or when, each one would lay down their life for the other and to me as their child it was obvious. My parents had a happy, loving, life-lasting marriage. But they seem to be among the exception.

Melissa White

September 25, 2013 at 10:27 am

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We live in a new age where respect and love have no place. Today we lie, cheat and disrespect each other. The only thing that has taken place in history that could have brought this about is the feminist movement, whereby trying to act more like men and doing things they are incapable of doing, women have become heartless pieces of crap that have killed our society and wrecked our children.

John

September 25, 2013 at 11:36 am

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But John, what brought about feminism in your opinion? If women were happy in the roles they had been given why would they rebel? I know that some females are male haters but they call themselves “feminists”. They are not feminists, they are only people-haters. They taint the good name of people who work for fairness and justice for everyone and those people are the only individuals who earn the honor of being called “feminists”. I will not have a few wretched women degrade the word.

Melissa White

September 26, 2013 at 10:08 am

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Also, may I add, that the feminists whom I am describing do not want to be like men. They do not admire men and neither do they put them down. They accept men as people, like themselves – some good , some bad, some talented, some not so much. A feminists likes being who she is and does not want to emulate someone else – anyone else. This does not mean that therefore, she devalues other people. An intelligent feminist would recognize that if she were to trade places with a guy she would be putting him in the same untenable position that she used to be in. And that is not sustainable.

Melissa White

September 26, 2013 at 10:20 am

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Feminism was born out of a woman’s selfish lust for power and control, but cloaked under the false media friendly title of “fairness and justice for all”. They starting floating around all of the equality bullshit, but that’s not what they want, they want all the power they percieve men have for themselves. They don’t want to be like men, but want the power they have.

So, women entered the workforce, dressed like men and hair cut off so they could get the power men have. They broke all the rules, became heartless bitches and forced their way into managment roles, which they had no business being in and became total failures, wrecking industry and displacing men who should have had those jobs. They stopping taking care of their children in this mad lust for power, wrecking their families. Feminism only exemplies a women’s selfishness, immaturity and power thirstyness, where power comes before all else whether it means wrecking the workplace, family or anything else that gets in her way.

The impact on society has been horrible; peace, respect and love mean nothing, to the feminist anyway, and has been replaced with lieing, cheating, disrespect and doing anything to get your way.

John

September 27, 2013 at 6:19 am

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Sounds like what men been doing all along, no? So how does it feel to be on the other side? Maybe it is not so stupid of me to look for fairness and respect (not equality, there is a saying we use in teaching, “to treat unequals equally, is the greatest injustice”) for everyone, perhaps even towards other species.
Women do not cut their hair to be like men but because it is easier to take care of. They dress in pants made with spandex because it is more comfortable. It’s not because they want to be like men but because they find grooming for comfort is healthier and more convenient – which men have allowed themselves all along, wisely, if I may add. For true feminist as compared to man-hating women, men are NOT our reference point for anything.

Melissa White

September 27, 2013 at 10:46 am

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I don’t agree with John’s assessment, but considering that most of us men are innocent of the crap feminism accuses us of, that “it’s our turn” meme does illustrate the point that feminism isn’t about equality, but retaliation and suppression.

Where John thinks you shouldn’t be doing ‘male things’, I personally don’t care. I think, generally, that you’re capable of it, but after feminists have ‘invaded’ a male space, they usually turn it into something no man wants any part of, and we resent the loss of the easy going work environment for the hypervigilant “must not ever offend any woman” places they become. We also resent that women are not held to the standards that we are, in that regard. I think even at the core of it, that might be what John is really pissed about.

Female-only places abound, even in offices, but even most women can’t stand to be in them because of all of the petty crap that goes on in them. Women think they’re missing out on something that’s going on in all male places, but typically, the only thing that’s missing is the pecking order and cat-fighting. We left work at the office, and the male clubs were about cigars, dirty jokes, whisky and sports, but just in case, you feminists had to make sure, so you destroyed them in the name of ‘fairness’

And you wonder why we sneer at ‘fairness’ and ‘equality’ when feminists use them?

Feminists bitch about being Offended all the time. They equate it with Rape, which really cheapens actual Rape. Yet, feminists don’t give a rats ass who they offend. It’s the first of many one way streets with feminists, and the mutual empathy that you’d like in a relationship is gone from the very beginning.

Feminism has succeeded in vilifying everything male, and for the most part, relegates most of us into a second class of citizen, though no fault of our own, and mostly, in spite of a genuine effort to do our due diligence and act in good faith.

Feminism has certainly achieved its stated goal of destroying families, and replacing men with ‘the state’. Congrats. You feminists made it suck so much that men avoid it like they would any bad business decision, and still, the press vilifies men for being immature for refusing to willingly embrace an awful contract. Brilliant! The degree that feminists have undermined a constitutional right of men to be parents of their children’s lives, and the child’s right to both of it’s parents, have all been rendered subordinate to whatever the golden uterus wants. We all get to hold our breath for two decades until she’s no longer in control and can’t change her mind anymore. Sure, Men want to be part of that paradigm!

Too much of feminism is blatantly contradictory, consists of double standards (when it has any standards), and is basically a justification for women to do whatever the hell they want, whenever, and to hell with the impact on other people (husbands and children), to hell with accountability, and to hell with picking up the tab or cleaning up the mess.

Too much of feminism is petty, vindictive, bitter, retaliatory. It’s about shouting down any criticism (kinda like the left and marxism, and now, ghey rights), and about maintaining the focus on women as uber-victim. And any attempt at a discussion of the damage that feminism does brings out the screaming harpies and the retaliation. Feminists at the University of Toronto caused so much grief for an attempt to hold a men’s meeting there (to discuss some very real grievances), that they were screaming obscenities at cops (calling them “rape enablers”, etc) and pulling fire alarms. The University of Toronto’s reaction? Demand the men’s group pay them for the additional police required because of what the feminists did. Aside from YouTube, there’s not much coverage, beyond some feminist misinformation about the subject matter.

This is what feminism looks like.

You’re right – the goal of feminism wasn’t to become men. Men are accountable for what they do, what they say, who they make promises to, the contributions they make, and the crimes they commit. Everything that I see about feminism is to avoid all of those things.

Every aspect of feminism is about three words: I, Me, Mine. Feminists behave (in groups, anyway) like the worst of any spoiled brat I’ve ever seen throwing a tantrum.

You may, personally, have a different experience and opinion about Feminism, it’s goals, and it’s actions. That’s fine. The very real experience that most of us men have had with the fallout of feminism, especially in school, work, law (criminal, civil and familiy), and how we men are perceived in this culture do not give us any reason to think that, for even a nano second, feminism is about ‘equality’.

The result is that most men see any self proclaimed feminist as “someone to avoid”. We can’t trust you. Not as we would care to trust an equal. That’s the saddest part of feminism, really – it’s destroyed any basis of trust between men and women.

If you see yourself different from “those feminists” then the feminists that we’ve encountered are a stain on your brand, I may have missed it, but I don’t see you taking any stance against the rabid anti-male feminists that are giving your personal label a bad name, and as far as we can tell, you’re enabling and encouraging that behavior, which effectively makes you the *same* as “those” feminists.

Wayne

September 27, 2013 at 11:36 am

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I am one of the “mothers of feminism”, Wayne, and have tried to guide its course (not very successfully so far, I’m afraid). You mentioned U of T, I was an engineering student there when we rolled a bathtub down Yorkville ‘to wash a hippie’. Never finished my degree because I could not take the constant male harassment. In my country of birth there are similar number of women in chemical as men and I had no idea what I’d be facing in Canada. That is not why I am a feminist. I was born one. I come from many generations of matriarchal aristocrats in Europe. It was my upbringing. Feminism was meant to be like Mother Nature, nurturing and just, educating individuals about what was the right thing to do, your sons as well as your daughters. There were not supposed to be any losers. That was the ideal.
The feminist movement that has developed does not seem to reflect our ideals. I believe the experiences and the hurt that people are expressing at this forum. Probably there is an element of retaliation for injustices to women in the past and where it is still going on. There is likely a hightened sensitivity by some women to any act that may seem to disparge or dismiss them. I am not excusing it, in fact, it hurts our cause as well as its victims.
I guess in my apologetics of feminism I am trying to bring us back to its original intensions, which is fairness, respect and kindness to all. I am not asking men to bend over backwards to accommodate selfish or toxic women – ever. What I, as a feminist ask, is don’t value a male higher as a human being, just because of his gender.

Melissa White

September 27, 2013 at 12:32 pm

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Well, when I see the feminist response to works like “The War on Men”, “The War against Boys”, “Men on Strike”, I see nothing but venom in how your fellow feminists treat fellow feminists and former advocates like Erin Pizzey and Warren Farrell (egalitarians that receive death threats for criticizing feminism), after 35 years as an adult man dealing with feminist lies and vitriol, and more than 13 years of personal experience in family law, all I can say is:

Whatever you intend for feminism to have meant was kind of lost in the mad dash for grants, college programs, entitlement programs, the billions spent on “female only health programs”, mandatory female only benefits in Obozo-care, special treatment under the law in both criminal and civil law, the destruction of the family, the ability to ruin a a man (and his family) with a false allegation of rape or assault or ‘harassment’, and the ability to unilaterally eject a man from his family while still demanding he subsidize the choice, well, your name is attached to something pretty despicable, that makes anything ‘teh patriarchy’ did look like school yard antics in comparison. Whatever evil you think men did, feminism has enshrined far worse in our culture and in the law.

But you still hitch your wagon to that star by calling yourself a feminist?

I’m finally seeing some serious criticism of feminism. It’s posted because the authors of said criticisms come from women, and apparently, only women can be taken seriously when it comes to addressing the damage that feminism has created, championed, lobbied for, endorsed and defended – the men and children affected by it are without voice or agency.

When I read articles about things that are of interest to both men and women regarding the family, or who’s doing that role, or the compromises that couples have to make, or breakups of families, or the lack of ‘quality men to marry’, no one bothers to ask men what they think about picking up the slack in the family earnings, or why they’re not interested in marrying. We have to assume that only women know what’s going on in men’s minds, if it’s even worth bothering to give a shit about the impact on men in the first place. Usually, we’re left to take the hint that its some petty, puerile reason like “I don’t get to beat and boss around women anymore, so fuck it”, or “well, they’re so many women eager to have sex, why bother buying the cow?”, or “Thank god I get to stay at work all day instead of dealing with the brats”, presumably followed up by “where’s my sandwich?”

I’d suggest taking a quick read of “Men on Strike”. It’s a quick read, interviews of men who’ve dropped out or become frustrated with our society and legal system that treats them like crap regardless of their actions. Dr Smith makes the point that men are making the rational choice to withdraw, rather than embrace, a hostile culture and environment, from college to marriage to the workplace, but most importantly, its one of few books that bothers to ask men what they’re thinking, feeling and doing.

I appreciate that you’re willing to talk to us, and acknowledge some of what we’re fighting, but expecting us to forgive ‘feminism’ for the grief it has brought us, (and our children) is too much. Feminism has been a blight for my entire adult life. It has been little more than a vehicle for abuse, money and power without accountability.

Men don’t have a voice, save for the odd blog here and there. It’s sad to say that outside of here, your voice would carry where ours does not, and yet, it’s a risky proposition to stand up to that mob, which is likely why ‘mothers of feminism’, like you won’t do it. Or you benefit from it, while somehow managing to hold yourself at arms length from it, like Saudi Arabia does with Islamic terrorism.